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Updated: 2/10 4:28 pm
WICHITA, Kansas -- When Michael Capps set foot in Iraq with Halliburton, Iraqi Freedom was well underway, but the buzz in the American bases had nothing to do with politics.

“The minute you hit the ground, there was hype,” said Capps.

Servicemembers were talking cash, Iraqi money called dinar.

“You couldn't almost walk into an American base without somebody mentioning the Iraqi dinar, the revaluation, the investment…we're going to become instant millionaires,” said Capps.

The idea? Buy dinar at the current low value, near worthless, and hope for appreciation.

When Capps bought his currency in Iraq, $14,000 worth, the dinar was valued around 1,500 to one dollar.

Best case scenario, the dinar would return to its pre-war value 3.5 to one, making Capps and many other investors instant millionaires.

“If it sounds too good to be true, come on wake up, it's too good to be true,” said Certified Financial Planner, Don Grant.

Grant is the first to steer potential investors away from the dinar. He starts with the dinar's valuation. Unlike the U-S dollar, the dinar isn't backed by a stable government.

“The dinar has been valuated initially by Saddam Hussein. He is the one who said, ‘This is what it's worth,” and it’s pretty much maintained that same value for the past decade,” said Grant.

According to online exchange site xe.com, today's value of the dinar is about 1,160 to every dollar. Back in 2005, it was around 1,500. That’s a seven year appreciation of about 30 cents.

Capps is well aware his investment might take time. He's well-aware it's nothing more than a gamble in the first place.

“I think there's definitely some potential for some real opportunity, but anybody that's got the view that it's a get rich quick overnight, it definitely isn't going to happen that way,” said Capps.

But Grant and many other advisors have one undeniable reason they don't see that potential. The Iraqi government may be the last one to want their currency to appreciate. They're in big debt. If their currency gains value, that just deepens their debt. In fact, many say Iraq would be far more likely to scrap the dinar altogether and create a brand new currency, making all that dinar sitting in American houses nothing more than pretty paper.

But say, the dinar stays put and it does appreciate. Here comes the next problem, says Grant. Where do you cash them in?

“I don't know of a place in America where I can go trade dinars other than some place that is perhaps illegal,” said Grant.

The currency is not regulated. To see for yourself, Grant offers a challenge to those thousands of Iraqi dinar dealers online.

“Present them the opportunity of buying some that you have. Tell them you'll sell them at a discount. I don’t think they'll buy it,” said Grant.

That's something both Capps and Grant agree on. It's the middle men you need to be wary of. With shipping and handling and commission charges, you end up paying two to three times the dinar's true value, making the dealers the ones who may be getting rich.

Yet the trend of dinar investment continues to grow and there's one reason for that; hope.

No one knows for sure if it will or won't pay off.

But even Capps offers this advice:

“The dinar as a whole is completely a risk. You know, one of the things people will tell you about any investment is, don't invest money you're not prepared to lose.”

Grant encourages anyone interested in foreign currency investment to get with a certified financial planner. Visit cfp.net for more information. 

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Hammond - 2/21/2012 10:47 PM
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Boy, what a shame they didn't report actual TRUTHS about the Dinar. I just want to post FACTS so folks can decide for themselves, always do your research as both the reporter and Don Grant said incorrect statements. I'm an Accountant with degrees in Accounting and Business, I do hold dinar. So, I'm well versed on the situation in Iraq. 1st - They said that Michael Capps had $14,000 into dinar at $1,500 per dinar. That would equal $21,000,000 in dinar. She reported that if the dinar revalues at best $3.50 he would have $21,000,000. That is INCORRECT. You need to take $21,000,000 dinar he currently holds x $3.50 which would come out to $73,500,000 in US Dollars. So you understated his Revaluation amount by $52,500,000 Don Grant - I don't know why he's so down on the investment other than the fact that he can't make any money off a commission to sell it. Is that the reason? Normally investment folks like him make money off commissions by selling investment vehicles like stocks, etc. Dinar can be purchased thru Currency Traders at this moment but not thru folks like him. Come on, don't rain on everyone's parade of hopes and dreams. Plus you need to get your facts straight. SADDAM didn't value the dinar. The dinar has been around since 1500's, then in 1932 thru 1958 was valued against the British pound. Then in 1959 it was valued against the US Dollar at $2.80. From there it went up and down in value to a high of $4.82 but NEVER below $2.80 until the 80's when it was at $3.23 and Chapter VII was slapped on them for invading Kuwait. Stable Gov't, correct, not yet but they are working on it. Not $.30 since 2005 to now, it's 30% gain. So, 4.28% appreciation on dinar since 2005. From 1500 to now 1160. That's huge and that's without an official RV. Iraq in debt, yeah $17 billion to Kuwait. Pretty much all other debt has been forgiven. ALSO, they didn't mention IRAQ is sitting on the largest amount of US dollars at $50 billion.

ExecConsult - 2/17/2012 12:56 PM
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I should have added that I am also an attorney and have studied the legalities and tax issues regarding dinar extensively.

ExecConsult - 2/17/2012 12:47 PM
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My name is Mark Galloway. I'm the owner of Advanced Legal Planning, LLC. I've counseled many people on dinar issues. I even started a blog (http://www.whatisiraqidinar.com ). I feel the need to correct some things from the newscast. Because Don Grant has the credentials of a Certified Financial Planner, we "SHOULD" be able to trust what he says. However, some critically important information about the dinar is not accurate. Saddam Hussein DID set the value of the dinar BUT that was prior to the UN sanctions and allied invasion of Iraq. Since that time the value has been tightly controlled by the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) in concert with the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Every US currency trader that exchanges US currency (USD) for Iraqi dinar (IQD) will also exchange back. They are registered with the US Treasury and required to do so. There is nothing illegal about trading in the currency. Mr. Grant also mentions Iraq's debt as a reason for Iraq not to revalue its currency. Perhaps he is unaware that the majority of Iraq's debts were forgiven in the so called "Paris Club" treaty (or so I have read). Will Iraq provide a new currency? Every indication is that they will. There are reports from the CBI that the money is already printed. However, that does not suddenly make the dinar every Iraqi citizen holds worthless. When a new currency is printed, there is a time to exchange the old currency for an equivalent amount of the new. The news team can't police every statement. They depend upon we professionals to speak only in areas where we are qualified to speak. When a professional speaks they are accountable. We should all take more care when people trust us to advise them. Best of Blessings, Mark

bostonangler - 2/12/2012 8:46 AM
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This story is filled with mistruths.. First, the rate was set by Saddam? No really an accurate statment. All one has to do is track the currency rate and you will see it was worth over $4.00 to one Dinar in the early 20th century. Before Saddam was put in office by our government the value was over $3.00. As for backing it's value... Uh I think having what will become the world's largest reserves of natural gas and oil is pretty solid. As for a stable government. I'm not too worried. After the US and the oil companies have invested 100s of billions of dollars, I do not believe they are going to let this country slip back into the ways of the old middle east... I think as a news outlet you would do better to check some facts before puting this story out there for the informed public to read. Your report is true to the fact that this is a risky investment, but to say it is a scam is misleading. I bought all my Dinar from a bank. I can resell it at anytime with the only lose being the fees involved and like any investment, only spend what you can afford to lose. Try selling your worldcom or enron stock to someone, see how the works out for you.

AJAnderson - 2/11/2012 1:59 PM
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Sure if one buys now from lets say Dinar Banker and sells back to them that investor will lose the exchange rate difference, but what if the Dinar RVs at .86 or 1 to 1 to the US dollar like the Iraq articles tell us? Then would the investment been worth while? AJ

AJAnderson - 2/11/2012 1:56 PM
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Sure if you buy from lets say Dinar Banker who is a UST registered seller and buyer of the dinar, who sells at the present value allowed by the CBI in Iraq, but if you sell back to them they are only going to give you a little above the exchange value here in the US, which is at about .00086 or about $860.00 per million. You lose the exchange rate difference at this point. But, what happens if the dinar RVs at .86 or 1 to 1 as the iraq articles tell us. Then what is the exchange rate difference?

wuenschr - 2/10/2012 8:36 PM
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Chase is not trading Dinar...please stop saying that

getyourwebon - 2/10/2012 6:56 PM
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Bank of America nad Chase bank trade Dinar

Matty - 2/10/2012 1:46 PM
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I would suggest you contact one of the local IQD sites and speak top some on the most balanced and grounded Mods in the Dinar community (ext @ 3 million Americans) ..... Vic at THEGATEKEEPERS...or Mike at theiqdteam.com I can provide links and info if you need it, as a side note I would fire who ever did you back ground research. Nice graphics though. Have a great day......Matt in SD.
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