ABC News’s Jonathan Karl writes in “Betrayal” that then-Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin spoke with other Cabinet members including then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about attempting to remove Trump from office through the 25th Amendment, according to excerpts published by MSNBC.
Karl, during an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” early Monday, said Pompeo “asked for a legal analysis of the 25th Amendment and how it would work,” but the idea was “quickly jettisoned” the next day once the officials recognized how difficult the path for such an effort would be, namely as then-Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and then-Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao were resigning.
“It would not be quick enough and it would be subject to legal challenges,” Karl said on MSNBC.
“But in the hours after the riot, there were high-level conversations about this,” he emphasized.
Karl attributes the reporting to “a source familiar with the conversations” and told the MSNBC hosts that his story is “rock solid.”
He said that despite multiple attempts to get in touch with Pompeo or Mnuchin to confirm the story, he had not received any communication until he brought up the story to Trump.
During their final interview for the book, Karl asked the former president why the two men would not deny the story if it wasn’t true.
Karl told the MSNBC hosts that a few hours after that interview, he received the statement through Pompeo’s spokesperson, Rolling Stone reports.
“Pompeo through a spokesman denied there have ever been conversations around invoking the 25th Amendment,” according to Rolling Stone.
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Reports surfaced in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol that administration officials discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment, but it did not come to fruition. Instead, the House impeached the president for a second time days after the rioting, and the president ran out his term from the White House.
He was ultimately acquitted by the Senate.
Karl’s book is set to be released on Tuesday.